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Steve Rinella mentions reading Dr. Schmidt's book multiple times throughout the interview. He explicitly states 'I have just read your book The Sting of the Wild' and references specific content from it, such as discussions about young scientists asking original questions. At the end of the podcast, he gives the full title and author: 'The Sting of the Wild by Justin O. Schmidt, creator of, among many other things, the Schmidt Pain Index.'

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Steve asks Dr. Schmidt 'Have you read a book, uh, in the Heart of the Sea' and describes it as 'a book about the whale ship Essex.' He discusses the book's content, mentioning how whalers would stock tortoises by flipping them on their backs in the ship's hold, keeping them alive for months. He praises the book saying 'it's a great book' but warns 'The movie, man, do not waste your time.' He also quotes his favorite line from the book about cannibalism among the survivors.